I just answered the following question:
Q: “I looked in your not recommened a to z list. Do you know anything about the six figure yearly .com system. I know you get lots of emails but how could i find out if this legit. thanks for the info.”
A: “OK. I don’t know it – but I see a big RED FLAG in that it claims
to be rated #1 by HomeBusinesFiles – which we have on our NOT recommend “Review/Consumer Protection site” list here:
Home business review sites and protection sites we don’t recommend.
I won’t go into the details, but it has to do with several of the articles at HomeBusinessFiles recommending opportunities that have websites hosted on the SAME SERVER.
Note: I’m posting the details on the blog that I didn’t send to the original persona asking the question:
I posted a long discussion I had with someone regarding
the realities of this type of opportunity here:
http://www.workathometruth.com/blog/2008/04/21/read-if-you-want-to-make-money-with-google-adwords/
SixFigureYearly.com claims to be the #1 Rated site at HomeBusinessFiles.com. Initial skepticism is based on the fact that both SixFigureYearly.com and HomeBusinessFiles.com are hosted on the same IP address:
209.157.71.50
Of course that could be a complaint coincidence, but lets take a look at some of the other products HomeBusinessFiles recommends:
This article:
http://www.homebusinessfiles.com/article466765.html
recommends a review site called WorkAtHome10.com – which is also hosted on IP:
209.157.71.50
Here are the #1 sites WorkAtHomeTop10 recommends in each category along with the IP they’re hosted on:
- SixFigureYearly.com – 209.157.71.50
- HomeJobGroup.com – 209.157.71.50
- ClassifiedSurveys.com – 209.157.71.50
More – This article:
http://www.homebusinessfiles.com/article455667.html
Recommends a program called AdwordForBeginners.com which is hosted on this IP:
209.157.71.50 (I’d say we’re starting to see a pattern here that defies the odds this shared IP address being a “coincidence”).
AdwordsForBeginners has testimonials from the following sites (i’ve listed the IP where they’re hosted as of this writing):
- WorkAtHomeTop10.com – 209.157.71.50
- ScamFreeOnline.com – 209.157.71.50
- HomeBusinessFiles.com – 209.157.71.50
This Article:
http://www.homebusinessfiles.com/article455.html
Recommends a product called My-Type-Of-Biz (My-Type-of-Biz.com) which is hosted on this IP:
209.157.71.50
The sales page tries to distance itself from “data entry affiliate programs”, but then goes on to use the exact same type of language that some of the worst data entry sites use – here’s snippet from the My-Type-Of-Biz sales letter:
“ I will teach you which of the over 10,000 companies to join and you can start writing for by filling out online forms for them instantly.”
It’s nice to see that they are revealing that it’s a business, but they then still go on to use language that makes the opportunity seem much simpler than it is.
In addition to being hosted on the same IP, – here’s another thing that the following sites have in common:
- AdwordsForBeginners
- SixFigureYearly
- WorkAtHomeTop10
- My-Type-of-Biz
- HomeBusinessFiles
- ScamFreeOnline
All have the following at the top of their source code:
<meta name=”generator” content=”Homestead SiteBuilder”> which appears to indicate that ALL 5 sites were built with the same sitebuilder.
(Note, because privacy guard was put on the some of the domains immediately, there was no way to tie them together even via a whois history search). However, another “Fun fact” came from doing a comparison of a couple of the pages between AdwordsForBeginners & SixFigureYearly using this Similar Page Checker:
http://www.webconfs.com/similar-page-checker.php
Here are some results:
“http://sixfigureyearly.com/termsandconditions.html
is 87% percentage similar to
http://adwordsforbeginners.com/termsandconditions.html”
&
“http://adwordsforbeginners.com/privacypolicy.html
is 94% percentage similar to
http://sixfigureyearly.com/privacypolicy.html”
etc., etc.
Onc again, I posted a long discussion I had with someone regarding the realities of this type of opportunity here:
http://www.workathometruth.com/blog/2008/04/21/read-if-you-want-to-make-money-with-google-adwords/
And you can get excellent training for free for affiliate marketing (which is what they’re teaching at SixFigureYearly) here: http://www.quityourdayjob.com
This is a question not a comment as such. Please, is there an easy, legitimate, honest, inexpensive and moral way to make money online? I am desperate for an income from home online. Every site that looks promising that I review is alleged to be a scam…and even the review sites are alleged to be scams. Please help me through this internet minefield.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Oops. I accidently deleted the comment from ScamFreeTop10. Anyhow – I had a copy in my email so I’ll repeat what they said here:
“So you see fit to judge something you admittedly don’t know about?! Doesn’t someone dispensing advise on which products are reputable owe it to their readers to be informed themselves? Please understand that I have been scammed many times myself and therefore understand your natural skepticism! But DON’T KNOCK IT ‘TIL YOU’VE TRIED IT!Having purchased the product myself I can honestly say it has performed and continues to perform-just as promised!!! It is an education that profit$ it’s students! The reason for which there are several sites having the same IP address (which is NOT a crime!) is simple… This is a system where trials of several PRODUCTS ARE ACTUALLY TESTED and those that PASS are ENDORSED!!! FINALLY VALID REVIEW SITES!!! Rightly so…FINALLY a place where one can find VALID REVIEW SITES and no BS!!!”
OK. Done. Now, I’d LOVE them to explain that they have people making $9,270 per month with Classified Surveys when I have numerous friends who either OWN legitimate survey companies or are high-up executives in them that will clearly state that it’s NOT possible.
I love this bizarre statement:
“The reason for which there are several sites having the same IP address (which is NOT a crime!) is simple… This is a system where trials of several PRODUCTS ARE ACTUALLY TESTED and those that PASS are ENDORSED!!!”
Well, I never said it was a CRIME and the logic makes zero sense at all. How does it make any sense? Can someone explain that to me? Somehow it seems like they’re saying that if a product is ENDORSED they put it on their own server?
Also, what does it mean that “trials of several PRODUCTS ARE ACTUALLY TESTED”? I’m not sure what it means to test the trials?
Must have spent too much time at ZomboCom.com
Thankyou for exposing all these absolutely moronic a**h**** They should seriously be put in jail. I’ll throw away the key myself.
Hi again. Could you tell me anything about ‘The rich jerk?’ He sounds a bit crazy, so maybe it’s a real bona fida one. Any more scam artist and I’ll get a bit more p****d ***. . .
His website is also mad, but refreshing; is it real, or is it not?
Thank you in advance,
Timbo
Timbo,
I don’t know what he’s doing these days. His initial product was decent enough but it’s possible he’s gone to the whole big upsell to coaching route which in a lot of cases isn’t that great.
I’ll have to take a look and see what he’s doing these days.
The real reason for these companies having the same IP address is that address is owned by Homestead…. a web hosting company that has thousands of clients of which my company is one. The address in question is also assigned to my website. I am not one of the questionable organizations you are blogging about. I am not saying that your opinions are not valid, but to lump them all together based on an IP address is a flawed process. However, the balance of your argument could very well be valid. People do things for two reasons… Need or Greed. If a company can satisfy one of the two they might have a shot at the business. If they can satisfy both of those reasons it’s a done deal. Unfortunately, thieves and criminal types understand this brief sales model and prey on the greedy or the needy.
Yes. Agreed. I didn’t mean to imply that all the sites hosted on a particular IP were suspect. Obviously the FEWER sites that are hosted on a particular IP the greater the likelihood they’re related.
It may be that I didn’t explain well enough how I was looking at this, but it is important to look at the ENTIRE blog post I wrote. The IP address was only ONE of the factors.
There are other corroborating factors. The IP address was just the first “scent on a trail”.
I agree Paul. I really did understand your overall thought process. You are probably correct in your analysis. There are a ton of so called make a lot of money the easy way opportunities. If an idea was so good that anyone could do it, I would merely hire a lot of people and do it myself and keep the money. I wouldn’t propagate it to the world. what these companies are really selling is a dream to the needy or greedy. I feel sorry for the needy who fall for such schemes. For the greedy who jump in to these get rich programs….they usually get what they deserve. There are no shortcuts to genuine wealth. Wealth is not always measured in dollars. Keep the light on…..
I understand this is a post like for 2 years ago. But can you guys believe this. I found your blog because I recieved an ad from SixFigureYearly.
I admit is the “greedy” part of me, cause the “No More Out Of Pocket Money” ticks me. Yet I am also the needy cause wanted to get away the Rat Race for good.
I love what “3 Left” had said:
There are no shortcuts to genuine wealth. Wealth is not always measured in dollars. Keep the light on…..
Thanks again for getting rid of the “Greedy” in me:)
Cheers
Jason Ser
If any of the Legit.home jobs are for real then where’s the addresses, phone numbers,and show there E-mail addresses so people can check them out for themselves? oh and first and last names,and company name to.If there legit. then they don’t have anything to worry about.
There are hundreds of reliable programs for sale on the Internet but if anyone thinks that they are going to rub a magic lamp and have instant wealth, forget it.
If you want to work on the Internet you’d best learn what to do and then find a program suitable to your talents.
Next,follow the instructions and stay FOCUSED – its too easy to jump form one thing to the next and get overwhelmed by everything available.
If you stay the course, you WILL make money but don’t expect it to happen ovenight. If you are serious, and working consistantly at it you can start making money in a
couple of months.
As someone once said, “the harder I work,the luckier get”!
I love that saying Mattie – that one and also the related “formula”:
Preparation + Opportunity = Luck
Thank you Paul for this! I would just like to say that I have personally bought SixFigureYearly and I can truthfully say that it’s NOT all that. I learned a few things that I could have learned on my own but that’s it.
The testimonial photos are “stock” photos and the instructional videos from “AdwordsForBeginners” and on “SixFigureYearly” are made from the same person. I can tell you other things as well but as you said, HUGE RED FLAG!
The site mainly focuses on getting you to buy copies of the sites “ScamFreeOnline (scamfreeonlinedotcom)” and I think another site called “Home Job Research (homejobresearchdotcom)” so that you can promote them. It use to have “Work AT Home Top 10 (t10wahdotcom)” on the list but I believe it’s not offered to buy a copy of amymore. You are directed to a site where you can buy these copies at “ekohgroupdotcom” and I see that it changed it’s appearance but before it did the site was made from a template from, guess where?… That’s right, Homestead. Although I cannot prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt but I truly believe that all the sites you mentioned above, including “EKOH Group” are all owned by the same owner.
Be very careful people with what business opportunities you buy, if you truly are serious about making money online then I will bluntly but sincerely say don’t be LAZY, take your time to do your own RESEARCH. These guys get smarter and smarter and more shameless as the days go by and hey why not, they are sitting at home laughing with YOUR money! Don’t let them do that folks. Anyways, thanks Paul for doing what you do, keep it up, you’re doing great!
Thanks Eric,
I think I did this review before I discovered the image search engine Tineye.com which I used to identify other places photos were being used for the HomeCashCourse discussed here.
Let’s just say that…YOU too can have the “perfect family”.
Hi Paul,
I want to add a message about how RIGHT u are, despite the mail above saying you should be informed. I too, purchased this product as I’m new to this, I’m neither needy or greedy : ) but wanted to start an internet business and just wasn’t aware, stupid i realise now, but I started seeing things about scams and before I started selling it on, I thought i better check it out and came across this site so I have taken down my ads relating to it and will have to try something different. They are definitely all connected, that is so apparant when I purchased the remaining offers. They all advocate each other, no-one who’s bought the websites could dispute the fact they are all one company.
I cannot get a refund but its a lesson learned. I will ensure I check out any further offers before buying anythign further.
Thank you for your great site in assisting people.
Kind regards
Caroline
Caroline,
Sorry to hear that happened to you.
There’s a new WorkAtHomeTruth forum where people can ask about an opportunity they’re looking into BEFORE they make a purchase. The forum is here:
http://www.workathometruth.com/forum/
Ditto – I too got scammed by sixfigures and adsense for beginners or adwords, whichever it was. All these people will reap what they sow (down below!)
Ditto: I got scammed by both. Oh well, to hell they go for they will surely reap what they sow.
I recently joined Ekoh group and purchased an affiliate website from them. The site offers 10 top picks that are actually clickbank programs and all 10 offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee. So there are thousands of people selling clickbank products, and ekoh group just sets you up with a clickbank ID and a professional looking site ready to take orders. Does this mean that clickbank is a scam? If ekoh group is a scam, then clickbank must be a scam….Please feel free to reply……
Your logic imakes a bit of sense, but it isn’t as easy as you make it sound.
Clickbank is a 3rd Party payment processor and affiliate system – basically a distribution channel. Almost ALL affiliate networks run both shady offers and legitimate offers. The Federal Trade Commission has traditionally refused to go after affiliate network. I actually discussed this fact with one of their senior litigators at length.
In fact the FTC rarely goes after 3rd party “gatekeepers” at all. There was a recent exception to this in the FTC’s case against MoneyGram which is a potential indicator that they will change the way they view the gatekeepers in the long term.
There are all kinds of legitimate offers and all kinds of scams run through ClickBank.
So why doesn’t ClickBank shut down the scams? There are a few reasons I can think of:
1) Once an offer is approved, the vendor can go back and change the sales letter. In other words, what ClickBank sees and what the public ultimately sees could be two wildly different things.
2) Maybe Clickbank doesn’t feel they have a responsibility beyond the initial screening.
3) It could be a simple business decision. Many of the scam offers generate a significant amount of revenue for ClickBank.
So ultimately your logic doesn’t hold in the real world.
I agree that in the ideal world it SHOULD hold, but it just isn’t that simple in real life.
Paul, Thank you for the reply. I enjoy reading what others have to say. It is nice that you offer such a site. I am an honest guy, looking to make money as an affiliate online. I sure don’t want to scam anyone.
It is my understanding that Click-Bank requires a 60 day money back guarantee for all vendors on any offer or program. This is stated to be a rock solid “no questions asked” guarantee. I am new to the whole affiliate idea, but I feel that 60 days seems long enough for anyone to determine if their purchase is worth keeping or not.
If not, they can get a refund. This is why I joined Click-Bank, and feel like I am promoting legitimate products. I feel like the true scams online are the ones that do not offer a guarantee, or worse …have hidden requirements to meet to be qualified for the guarantee. Example (must prove you had a minimum of 50,000 visitors to your site).
I always plainly state up front, the 60 day money back guarantee on any product or program that I promote. I don’t know how a person could be more honest than that..
Also, I think a lot of people purchase a Make money online program, read the first few pages, and give up without even giving it an honest attempt. And then they jump in the scam review site wagon, and call something a scam, when in reality they were just looking for some get rich quick plan, and did not want to put in any effort to begin with..60 days should be plenty of time to determine if they got their moneys worth or not………..Bruce
A guarantee is only a partial solution to misleading advertising practices, but I agree with you that at least through ClickBank it’s easy to get refunds.
I was scammed by Six Figure Yearly and I also feel by Clickbank. Yes they do have their 60 day money back guarantee but I have been going around and around with them about this scam organization trying to get my money back. Every time I ask for a refund, well within the sixty days, I get an automated response stating that the vendor changed the refund to a tech problem and they close my refund request, so Clickbank DOES NOT always honor their 60 day money back guarantee. I paid them their $149.00 dollars supposedly for this scam group Ekoh to build me a review site, and my Clickbank receipt CLEARLY shows that the payment went directly to Six Figure Yearly, not Ekoh. I never got this supposed review site as promised and Six Figure used the excuse that their computers were down for a week, and it is my fault because I didn’t do everything to make this program work. It is kind of hard to do that when you don’t get what you pay for isn’t it. This is just another huge MLM scam and Clickbank needs to save it’s reputation by honoring it’s 60 day money back guarantee. I am just as fed up with them too.
Julie,
When did that happen to you? Recently ClickBank has disallowed the vendor to change the refund request more than once, because vendors were abusing the system. Here’s what Clickbank put out in April of 2011:
You can read more warnings that ClickBank sent to vendors here:
ClickBank says vendors should stop violating FTC Guidelines
I would contact ClickBank and tell them what happened – AND point out that it’s something that THEY themselves are trying to fix.
If you don’t get your refund within 48 hours, I’d file a dispute with your credit card company. The dispute procedures are usually on the back of your credit card statement. If you paid by debit card, you’ll need to talk to your bank.
Alternatively, you could skip contacting ClickBank and file disputes directly.
Either way, if you can let people here how it turns out, that would be great.
Are there any legit. businesses on the internet to make money for the newbie?
They all sound so great, but they are scams.
Charlene
sixfigureyearly is a good products that teaches how to start online affiliate marketing. It might not be good for those of us who have started earning online but I think it will be a very good instructions or lead way to hundreds of people out there who wants to start earning online. Though it not different from those money making ebooks but it really give a lot virtual instruction through its use of video. but one thing I know is most of this products information could be seen online without spending a dime if one does research on them.