I am also building multiple traffic systems to feed my own network of sites and this gives great insulation from the ups and downs of paid traffic sources.

Paid sources are much faster and I agree with you this is a field that people with zero knowledge should be extremely cautious with due to the level of competition and the downside risk of getting it wrong.

A few dollars invested in learning about PPC through training courses can be a smart investment that saves a bundle of wasted marketing.

Well done with your system, I bet it is a very good one.

Regards

James

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If we're someone's going to buy the course we want them to buy it from someone with a bit more knowledge about the course than just what was at the seminar AND we want to make sure it's going to be from someone we know will actually care about what they get out of the course.

As I mentioned our initial recommendation was really geared towards our subscribers who often know nothing at all about internet marketing and are just getting started out the gate.

I can't go into the details but we've been working for a year on a system to do large-scale non-ppc way to do CPA offers in a very automated way so we definitely see the potential.

I dropped by to say thanks for the bonus recommendation and also to say you have raised some great points.

In particular the point about finding creative ways to harvest keywords and get traffic in different ways to the competition. This is a great way to get low prices and high payouts.

The other thing you mentioned that I liked a lot was the suggestion that you can make your own deals and terms. There is a lot of dealing in this neck of the woods and it will suit someone who likes that.

It is not for total new marketers and I have suggested this to readers as well.

I am doing the course with students and after going over the course blueprint in detial I am really looking forward to it.

The course and the material should be the focus for people. There are as many biased naysayers as there are supporters. Some of the people who put the course (which they have not seen) down are putting out their own.

Regards

James

Then, the idea is that if you find a successful combination (PPC –> CPA) then you would add up some leverage, investing more and more into that profitable one. I understand that it is apparently proved that this guy makes over between $50K and $100K every day, so he must really know what he's doing. The price of the full 12 week course is $1997.

You can get the free report here: http://www.arbitrageconspiracy.eu

1) I already stated that the seminar is NOT the course many times. So how you came to the conclusion that "I don't get it that the seminar is not the course" is baffling.

However, I did re-read the sales letter and either I missed a couple pieces at the end or it was added after the first time I read it…probably I missed it.

And those are two pieces that address a couple of my concerns – how to build a team to scale which is critical – and how to outsource.

2) I already stated that SOME people may have researched on their own. You're right – I initially thought that you bought the course based on an endorsement which is why at the time I didn't understand why you were disappointed in Jerry for making a non-recommendation even though he left after 40 minutes.

So I think what I hear you saying is that ANYONE recommending or NOT recommending the course should have tried to get to know Aymen better and find out more about the course before making a non-recommendation of the course.

I guess the issue there would be whether the people promoting the course WERE given any detailed outline about what the course would cover other than just the "sales page" and the videos which really don't give enough detail to make a recommendation or non-recommendation.

Because in my opinion – if you're going to ask someone to promote your product you need to give them as much access as possible – unless your saying that even AYMEN himself doesn't know the details enough to share them with his JV partners – which I'd find a bit hard to believe.

3) As far as ME being jealous of Brad Fallon – which you seem to be implying by saying "you guys" – I've bought a lot from the Stomper guys – Stompernet for 10 months, SMARTS, and the original StompeNet course. And I've bought other products that they recommended, including Jeff Johnson's SuperAffiliateCoachingClub which has been perfect for where my partner and I have been taking our business – we literally would have been stuck for months without that training.

I think Brad and Andy are brilliant and I've received tremendous value from them and made huge leaps in my business from studying with them (and also learned what B.S. to avoid).

In fact, I'm planning to join Stomper AGAIN but i needed to take my business to another level before it made sense to do that. THEY were a huge part of HOW I learned to take my business to the level it's gotten to and how to get to where I want it to go.

4) I actually recently wrote about why I think hype exists in the home business (and IM) markets and how come even the best products almost HAVE to keep using hype here about a week or so ago:

Read about why I think even the best products almost HAVE to use hype to sell.

So whatever judgement you're making about ME is YOUR STUFF. You don't know enough about me to lump me in with a bunch of other people with a phrase like 'you guys'.

5) One last thing – I've always assumed Aymen IS making the money he claimed from the get go – I personally never questioned that piece.

BUT

You still don't get it – that FREE SEMINAR is NOT THE $2,000. COURSE.

The free seminar PROMOTED the 12 week course to "potential jv partners".

It did NOT TEACH the COURSE.

It will cost you 2 grand to learn that stuff.

Don't confuse the SEMINAR which was FREE with the 12 week training which COSTS 2 grand :'>

I could care less about the seminar – or the all star call – or any endorsements – that's not why I bought Arbitrage Conspiracy and NOT what I based my decision on.

They did that stuff to build hype. And it worked rather well too. But so what!

I did not buy Arbitrage Conspiracy because of the hype or any endorsements. No one has seen the material for the 12 week course – so how would they know whether it's good or not???

If you ask me – I think the reason why some people are so sour about this Arbitrage Conspiracy thing is because they don't like the hype… or the fact that Brad Fallon did it again. Brad managed to get every major player in a room to hear about his new product launch and the thing took over the internet for the past week.

It appears to be rubbing some people the wrong way. Some people hate when others succeed!

Ahhh… that's what it is!

I just wish you guys would NOT confuse the hype and massive jv promotions with what the product is offering. It looks pretty good to me (if you can make it past the endorsements!)

Have you even read the sales page to see what they will be teaching over the next 12 weeks??? Or did you get upset by all those endorsements and run the other way before you saw the product details???

It's funny – but the slam talk centers around everything BUT what the product actually offers!

If they can deliver all that stuff they promise – I will be happy to spend 2 grand for it!

I looked at the facts and verified whether this Aymen guy was real and then decided it was a good investment.

If you or anyone is basing judgement of what the course will be on what Jerry saw for 40 minutes and then bailed on so he could do better things, like take a nap, then I think you're basing your opinion on feelings and not facts. Product facts – not seminars or hype.

My whole point is – ALL THE PEEPS who feel obligated to slam this Arbitrage Conspiracy product (which is a 12 week course no one has seen yet) – has made their RASH comments based on the FREE SEMINAR and theOVERWHELMING PROMOTIONS.

I don't care about the seminar. I am not buying the seminar. That was given away for free.

I did not base my buying decision on the seminar – or any 3rd party "endorsement" – I based my decison on product features, facts and on PROOF and VALIDATION. I looked at what I could potentially learn from Aymen and decided it was a smart investment.

You have the right to NOT buy it – or even think it's not good – but you can't honestly predict WHAT I WILL GET is not worth it – you simply don't know – NOR DO I!

That's why it's an INVESTMENT. It's an educated guess!

I am willing to "invest" 2 grand to find out if this Aymen guy is for real and see if in 12 weeks I can learn things that will help me make more money. I have no problem with that. I can write it off on my taxes :'>

If I did not believe I would get enough VALUE to make my investment back – I wouldn't do it.

But about your comment about Jerry West – what I'm saying is you said:

"Sure – it's nice that he'll have a CPA course for free. I'll gladly look at it, but this Arbitrage thing is far more than teaching what CPA is. Since we don't know the secrets they'll reveal – NO ONE can say it will or won't be worth it."

But you also said:

"As for Jerry West – I really have respected him… but I am really disappointed in him – he walked out after 40 minutes – so he didn't see it all"

Jerry West covered this when he sent his full reason for not recommending the course (you're right: 'review' is the wrong word):

"As I said in my opening piece on my Blog, I was there for Aymen's video seminar and I walked out of the room after about 40 minutes due to the sheer basics of the lecture. I had better things to do that day … like take a nap. So how can I say it was garbage when I walked out so early? I had many friends who stayed to the end and my business partner stayed too. All hoped it would get better, and it didn't. So I know everything that was discussed."

In other words almost everyone HAS to base their recommendations or non-recommendations of the Arbitrage Conspiracy course on that live event which seems to be what Jerry West did.

Now, I'm not sure if you're saying that you agree with the people who ENDORSED the course.

But I don't see how people ENDORSING the course are different than Jerry West who did NOT endorse the course as ultimately it sounds like they are basing their recommendations on the SAME information.

So I didn't understand how can you be disappointed in Jerry West and not disappointed in the people who recommended the course if you are upset that reviews/recommendations aren't given based on the actual course?

I CAN see how you'd be upset with MY recommendation to my list and I definitely made a mistake by not prefacing it with the fact that I wasn't at the event so take it with a "grain of salt".

Someone that knows Aymen well – like it seems Nikhil does – that might be a different story as he likely has more details. I believe the two of them have known each other for quite some time.