IMPORTANT: One thing this My Home Wealth System review and analysis of its sales page is showing is that MyHomeWealthSystem.com is using images of models from photos from iStockPhoto and putting DIFFERENT names to the images of those models. You should NOT assume that the models agreed to have their images used in the this way. In fact, the probably DID NOT.
That ALSO means that the names shown for the images of the models in THIS post are NOT the true names of the models in the images. I am simply pointing out what the MyHomeWealthSystem.com site has done.
It’s also important to note that some time AFTER I did this post, My Home Wealth System added the following disclaimer to their sales page:
“For purpose of privacy, testimonial pictures have been adapted and are not their actual photos. Results may vary, testimonials are not typical results. All testimonials have been remunerated.”
With that in mind, here is a list of Red-Flags on the My Home Wealth System sales page:
My Home Wealth System Red-Flag #1)
Use of a “privacy disclaimer” for testimonial photos.
While use of Stock Photos for testimonials should be considered a red flag, the use of a disclaimer stating that stock photos are being used for “purposes of privacy” should also be considered a red-flag…in fact usually a BIGGER red-flag.
My Home Wealth System Red-Flag #2)
Use of paid testimonials.
The disclaimer on the MyHomeWealthSystem.com sales page states:
“For purpose of privacy, testimonial pictures have been adapted and are not their actual photos.”
The question you have to ask yourself is WHY does a product need to PAY people to say good things about it?
My Home Wealth System Red Flag #3)
Potential violation of the Federal Trade Commissions “No Safe Harbor” rule.
The disclaimer for MyHomeWealthSystem.com states, “Results may vary, testimonials are not typical results.”
As stated Remarks of David C. Vladeck1 Director, FTC Bureau of Consumer Protection in his address to the Electronic Retailing Association:
“Without getting into too much detail, there are a few important principles for advertisers to keep in mind. First, remember that a testimonial on a key attribute of your product will likely be interpreted as representing that the endorser’s experience is typical of what other consumers will be able to achieve. Second, the use of a disclaimer such as “results not typical” is no longer a safe harbor for the claims made in testimonials. Third, while you may use atypical or best-case testimonials, if you do, you should clearly and conspicuously disclose the generally expected results consumers can expect in the depicted circumstances. Of course, the best practice, and the less risky practice, is to use testimonials that actually reflect what your product or services is likely to deliver. In other words, rather than run ads that give with one hand but take away with the other, it would be better for your ads to give a clear picture of the results a consumer will actually get.”
My Home Wealth System Red Flag #4)
The use of paid video testimonials. If you are wondering if MyHomeWealthSystem paid for the testimonials, remember MyHomeWealthSystem states in their diclaimer that ALL testimonials have been remunerated …i.e. “paid for”.
I’m not sure how much they paid for the video testimonials, but I’ve seen MANY people providing video testimonials for as little as $5!
One question that comes to mind is, if MyHomeWealthSystem is so concerned about protecting peoples’ privacy by using “Stock Photos”, then why are they even using paid video testimonials?
My Home Wealth System Red Flag #5)
The use of stock photos and a video actor for “Scott Davenport”. Keep in mind that the disclaimer at the bottom of MyHomeWealthSystem states, “For purpose of privacy, testimonial pictures have been adapted and are not their actual photos.”
However, it does NOT state that the photo of Scott Davenport and the video of Scott Davenport is actually a video actor.
And in fact the picture that was originally used was the same picture used as “Lanty Paul” on a site called AutoCashSystem site.
Update: Now MyHomeWealthSystem.com is using a video actor from LiveFaceOnWeb to “play” the part of Scott Davenport. In fact the first thing you hear out of the video actors’ mouth is:
“Hi, I’m Scott Davenport. Welcome to MyHomeWealthSystem.com. Would you like to work from home and earn a full time income?
If I told you that I have built a system where you can earn $200 to $1,000 plus every day working as little as 30 minutes, would you be interested.”
I must have missed the part where he says, “oh, by the way I’m a paid actor from Live Face On Web” (although you CAN click out to LiveFaceOnWeb if you want to hire your own actors).
Stock Photo testimonial photos on MyHomeWealthSystem.com:
My Home Wealth System stock photo #1) Lee and Rachel Walker’s testimonial: “You saved us from remortgaging”
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My Home Wealth System stock photo #2) Evin Hewitt’s testimonial: “Thank you Scott, it has been a pleasure working with you”.
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My Home Wealth System com stock photo #3) David Cranberry’s testimonial, “WOW! It really works!”
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My Home Wealth System com stock photo #4) Bill Josephs testimonial: “You will never regret this!”
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MyHomeWealthSystem stock photo #5) Annie Thomas makes the amazingly prophetic statement: “Better than the real thing”.
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MyHomeWealthSystem stock photo #6) John Shepard: “I’ve never seen anything like this before”.
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My Home Wealth System.com stock photo #7) “Unbelievable. Tripled my wages overnight”
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My Home Wealth System.com stock photo #8) Thomas Anderson: “Not like any other programme I have ever seen”
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My Home Wealth System.com stock photo #9) James Carter: “Wow! This site totally blew me away!”
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Kevin Hoeffer and friends invade MyHomeWealthSystem!
3 of the “Testimonial photos” at MyHomeWealthSystem really stand out because they are the same stock photos used on several Kevin Hoeffer and “Make Money Posting Links On Google” sites.
- The “John Shepard” photo was used in a full page magazine display ad to promote KevinBlogSite.org
- The Lee and Rachel Walker photo has been seen on many “Kevin Hoeffer/Make Money Posting Links On Google” type sites
- And “Bill Joseph” is somewhat of a fake celebrity on the Fake News Sites
Red Ferrari photo file meta-information
I’m not ready to jump to any conclusions on this yet, but I do find it interesting that the photo of the Red Ferrari was apparently edited using the Adobe ImageReady bitmap graphics editor according to analysis of it’s internal meta-information at ServerSniff:
Red Ferrari Meta Info
MyHomeWealthSystem CLAIMS that leading magazines have voted it the number 1 work from home opportunity
MyHomeWealthSystem Voted Number 1?
Yes, you are reading that right. MyHomeWealthSystem claims that Fortune, BusinessWeek, Entrepreneur, Forbes, and Home Business Magazine have voted it the “number 1 work from home opportunity”.
LOL!!!
Are tons of people refunding MyHomeWealthSystem?
According to MyHomeWealthSystem’s own “Positions Left” counter MyHomeWealthSystem must get refunded at an alarming rate.
Check out the “Positions Left” history at MyHomeWealthSystem today…
Positions left at 6:38 PM today according to MyHomeWealthSystem:
MyHomeWealthSystem - Positions left at 6:38 PM Today
Positions left at 6:45 PM today according to MyHomeWealthSystem:
MyHomeWealthSystem - positions left 6:46
Positions left at 6:48 PM today according to MyHomeWealthSystem:
MyHomeWealthSystem - positions left at 6:48
So according to MyHomeWealthSystem’s own “Positions Remaining” counter, 10 people refunded the product in 10 minutes – or 1 refund/minute. If that were a consistent rate it would be 1,440 refunds per day, 10,080 refunds a week, and 524,160 refunds a year!
I mean…unless it’s a fake counter or something crazy like that….nah…it has to be real…right?
Get My Home Wealth System for $9.95 – if for some bizarre reason you actually want it
To prove to you how valuable My Home Wealth System is they offer it at various discounts. I got the following page that offered it to me for a $40.00 discount:
My Home Wealth System 40 Dollar Discount
Don’t ask me how you get the $40.00 discount on MyHomeWealthSystem. You just have to poke around for a while. Also, don’t ask me why in the world you would even want the $40.00 discount.
If anyone would like to report their experience with the product, please be sure to include an iStockPhoto picture of yourself in your comment.
Thank you.
Related posts:
- The original “Scott Davenport” photo was the same picture used as “Lanty Paul” on the AutoCashSystem site – which was discussed in the write up AutomatedWealthSystem here.
- TWO of the testimonials use images from the fake Make Money Posting Links On Google blogs discussed here.
- ONE of the testimonials for MyHomeWealth uses the everpresent “editor” image from the Fake News Sites discussed here.
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It is good to see someone willing to tell the truth about these sites, I had seen all those stock photos before but could not put my finger on where I seen them. So may God bless you for taking a stand on these people taking other peoples hard earned money. There was one other thing you can add, they mention that they have been around for 5 years but on better whois it was started in 2009, there math seem to be different from mine unless it’s the new math. Thanks
It means they have been fooling people for five to seven years and see the Irony no simple or ordinary person caught them !!!
That is what they mean.
Thank you more info. It proves that I’m a little slow at realizing all of this.
I recently got offered traffic Syphon.
Each time I said no the offer kept getting lower until they offered me a 5 day trial for $1.10.
Well after reading the stuff I canceled it as I thought it was borderline dishonest.Still do. So I emailed them and canceled. 2 days after I canceled click bank took out another $73.95 for these traffic syphon people. You can not imagine how hard it is to get the wrongfully charged amount refunded. So I dont support anything to do with click bank or their many affiliates anymore. I do plan to go to the dept. of Fair trading and show them everything.Not that I’m likely to get a refund.That was my grocery money that these people took wrongfully, not everyone is a rich person. I have 2 weeks to go until I next get any income. Honestly I hope they choke on the money they scam off people.
i’m so glad that some one out there is willing to bring these sites down by letting people know the truth. good job.
I just searched “Scott Davenport” and “My Home Wealth System” on the websites of Fortune, Entrepreneur, Forbes, and Home Business magazines. NONE turned up any reference to either search. Interesting, since MHWS says they voted MHWS the #1 home business opportunity.
Likewise, zero search results for either Scott Davenport or My Home Wealth System on the Better Business Bureau site.
So far I haven’t found ANY legitimate independent references to My Home Wealth System or Scott Davenport – only advertising blurbs on various sites saying in effect “It’s not a scam – really it isn’t!”.
Oh well, maybe SOMEBODY out there has a legit online system that’s relatively automated.
@Jon: Thanks for the additional data.
oh my God, i just did the same thing, I researched them on all of those magazines’ websites and could not find them Instead I found this post.
Thanks, I was just to try and be scammed once again. Thanks So Much for your blog.
Thanks for your due dilligence first and foremost. It is just so unfortunate that during these already hard times, you still have scammers out her willing to take advantage of the already disenfranchised population (which grows larger every day) I also think it to be immoral and unethical that these scammers take and are allowed to take photos and success stories from other sites without some sort of internet control and penalties levied for doing so. America is going to hell in a hand basket and only the unethtical seem to be the ones managing to remain non residents of the hell bound baskets! You scammers ought to be a sham of yourselves. What a disgrace and pitiful excuse for humam beings you are!
Christ, I was so bloody stupid and actually signed up and paid them!! I don´t know what I was thinking. Please, please, please – I want my money back!
Advice, anyone? What the heck can I do?
@Sofie: Sofie, sorry I missed your message. You can check the reply to Tom above.
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You are the first to set me straight on this scam. I also tried to substantiate the claims and could find no record of articles in any of the magazines about Scott Davenport or the MHWS website. When I would ask customer support about it they would say the artcles are old or give me some lame excuse. I joined and upgraded to the PRO version and have 11 websites that have been receiving a lot of traffic for several months, according to the statistics they provide, but absolutely NO sales. I feel stupid.
@Tom: If you bought thru ClickBank, you can just refund via clickbank. You can see how to do that here:
How to refund thru Clickbank
OK, I was one of their suckers. I signed up for their coaching, etc., but immediately decided it cost too much and I didn’t have time for all the webinars, coaching sessions, etc. Therefore, I sent by Certified Mail a letter cancelling the agreement/contract, as per the agreement. I have confirmed it was delivered and the company also has acknowledged receipt. However, I have yet to get the charges removed from my credit card. This has been going on for a little over a month now. Every time I do get to speak to someone, they will have another person call me back – but no one does. Why am I not surprised? I feel so stupid that I fell for their tactics in the beginning. I should never have listened to them. Wish I had read the comments in this blog first. Anyone have any ideas on how to get a refund?
If you have not already done so, contact your credit card company and list the charges as fraud. They will investigate and most likely remove the charges
Thank you all for leaving comments. It’s good to find a sight that show the true side of work from home scams. Are there any real work from home jobs out there, or others we just need to stay away from?
Since leaving comment the other day, I called my credit card company and explained my situation. They will take care of getting this straightened out; all I have to do is fill out a dispute form which they are sending. I will attach copies of my cancellation letter, Certified Mail receipt and USPS confirmation of delivery. I pass this along in hopes that it might help someone else get their money back.
Linda,
Would you be so kind as to forward me,also,the info so I can get a refund. Unfortunately,I used a debit card instead of a credit card. Was told it was $50,not $126.95! Any help would be appreciated.
astrordog@att.net
Yes,watch him closely,had a call from USA the other night ( how did they get my number ? ) asking how much I could spend on my credit card, age,type of card.
Thanks for this site.
Because of it I was able to go into “the interview” pre-warned.
I got “the call” from them after buying in to MyHomeWealthSystem for AUD$37.81 then chose to upgrade to pro for a further AUD$95.40 so I could have access to the 10 websites rather than just 1.
I put the first site up and its had 8,11,12,10,13 click-throughs over the last 5 days but 0 sales of the book.
The second site I put up Google disallowed the ads due to copyright – it turned out the product is a freeware product by JLC Internet TV … NOT FOR SALE!
So … unexpectedly I get the phone call at work wanting to interview me to see if I was a suitable candidate for them to work with. I put them off to a time that suited me. (1:30am Aust – 9am their time) I get the spiel of them trying to find out how much debt I have and how many credit cards I have at my disposal and thus how much credit I have avialable which I can use as “leverage” to get my business started. I eventually got a commitment that they generally expect people to spent about 10% of what they intend to earn in their first year but they 100% guarantee that you will never be out of pocket and that they will have you earn more than your investment within the first 30~60 days … when pressed, the guarantee is actually IF yo do EVERYTHING they say, they will work with you until you achieve you monthly income goal.
When pressed for any independent reports of their operation, they suggested I check out ripoffreport.com which yielded this http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/myhomewealthsystem.aspx
So combined with your warnings, I’d say steer well clear.
Just an observation, but Grant & Cassie with kids must all be twins because Pete & Sarah with kids are identical. Can we all say Oops?
@Lynndel ‘Lynn’ Edgington: LOL. I hadn’t noticed that.
I bought free membership by paying US$29.95 through ClickBank after a discount of $20. Immediately after the payment I was directed to the site and made to go through a series of upgrade proposals and corresponding clicks etc. However, I declined to go for any updates. So I was shown the way to set up my first and the only permissible web site, which I did. then I closed the session for the day.
Next day I wanted to Log in to my account through ‘Members’ log in area. The system did not find any account against my e-mail and corresponding password.
I went through the password recovery process and received the message saying that Log In details have been mailed. But nothing happened. No mail arrived.
Subsequently, tried to contact through ‘Contac Us’ area in the web site and through vipmembers e-mail ID. But nothing happens. My mails bounced back.
Then some one called me from States as explained by the posting from “automation_man”. I explained to him about my bitter experience with the site and unwillingness to tow with they any further. He promised to straighten up the things and send a mail on the next morning. It is now five days, nothing happened.
Just now I lodged a complaint with ClickBank and requested for a refund. Hope, I shall get money back.
FINALLY, ADVICE FOR ALL TO STAY AWAY FROM THIS SITE
thanks guys God bless
CHRIST LOVES ALL
i paid $9.95 and after i log in into the member site i request for my money back but what i got just a phone call in the morning (that make me awake) and until now my money not returned.
Well, THANK YOU for an upfront and honest review. Your page should be higher ranked than the others I read because you give REAL information. Unfortunate that Google can’t understand that.
Again, thanks for your honesty…and everyone for leaving information…on this blog. You have saved me $39.95.
There is way too much of this kind of crap going around. These guru scams with fake income claims. Honestly it is so easy to fake this type of thing and that is why it is everywhere. Thanks for informing people about this scam artist. Soon enough no one will be working from home because they just won’t trust anyone anymore not even the good honest people. I got taken a few times with various programs and products. Always do your research before you get involved or buy anything.
Robert
And remember boys and girls – just because money from cash gifting is TAXABLE doesn’t mean it’s legal:
Cash gifting and the I.R.S.
Paul hey I respect your view but there is a lot of misinformation and paranoia when it comes to cash gifting. You may want to take a look at this and if you still don’t agree.. well cash gifting is not for everyone. The first step is to have an open mind.
http://www.cash-gifting.us/cash-gifting-legal/
I watched the video in that article and there are a few things wrong with it. Number one he calls cash gifting a business. Cash gifting is not a business in any way, shape, or form.. it is an activity of like minded individuals. About 2:35 – 2:40 he says “earning income” again that is wrong.. you do not earn income in cash gifting you receive gifts. Anyone who thinks gifting is a business or is using words like income, earnings, investments.. etc is wrong and is incorrect. This is why people are all confused about cash gifting to begin with because people spread misinformation about it because they do not understand it. When people stop seeing the power of giving and receiving you know something is wrong in the world today. It is your GOD given right to do so.
Robert
If he can get time, I’ll have my friend Lynndel Edgington who runs Eagle Research Associates look at it as well. He works with an assigned federal agent and knows MUCH more about me on the subject.
He has a post where he analyzes all of the typical pro-gifting arguments here:
Analysis of Gifting Claims.
I watched it. The video is meaningless because you didn’t call someone within agency with enforcement authority or enforcement knowledge. In fact the person you talked to didn’t even know much about the I.R.S. auditing process.
You would need to talk to a C.I. agent, an AG, the law enforcement arm of the SEC or in some cases an FTC attorney (not first choice as they mainly handle merely misleading advertising).
Information about the C.I. can be found here:
Criminal Investigation agents at the I.R.S.
Hey well I am not here to debate just thought I would try to add a comment to your good post. I did not expect it to turn into something else. Just want to keep it friendly. There is nothing criminal about giving a cash gift to or receiving a cash gift from someone though, it is my legal and GOD given right to do so..
Robert
Re. the testimonial photos on the myhomewealthsystem.com website it does say at the bottom of the homepage that “For purpose of privacy, testimonial pictures have been adapted and are not their actual photos”, so I don’t think you can hang them for using iStockPhoto pictures.
The ‘X’ number of places remaining is dishonest, but quite frankly it’s standard practice in the marketing of internet products. I always disregard it. If you want the product buy it – don’t worry about how many other people have it – assuming the product is legit, making money is a function of driving traffic to good sales material. If everyone has the same sales material, all you can focus on is the traffic.
Saying you’ve been voted #1 by those magazines is just an outright lie. If it were true, don’t you think they’d have a scan of the article!
Interestingly, a google of the phone number on the FAQ page
http://www.myhomewealthsystem.com/faq
shows that the same phone number appears on the following websites:
http://www.elitewealthpackage.com/terms
http://www.homewebsitecenter.com/terms
http://homewebsitepro.com/
It appears to be a phone number in Arizona, although the while HomeWebsiteCenter has an address in California, ElitewealthPackage and their search engine company http://www.instant-customers.com/terms have addresses in England.
Rely on Clickbank and Paypal for your refunds for this sort of stuff.
Lastly, failing to give an identifiable company name is always a red flag. The Terms & Conditions go on about ‘Company’ but never tell you what the company is, which makes a nonsense of it. MyHomeWealthSystem is just a trading name. It should really say ‘X’ Inc. registered in ‘Y state’ d/b/a (doing business as) MyHomeWealthSystem, otherwise you have no idea who to sue!
Thanks Simon,
When I first did this post on MyHomeWealthSystem they didn’t have the testimonial disclaimer. What’s happened is so many sites are getting busted for using fake testimonials/stock photos that they started adding that disclaimer as a CYA.
That’s actually very important from say an FTC standpoint – because the FTC doesn’t just look at what a company is doing NOW, but looks at what a company has done over time.
I did a write-up of EliteWealthpackage here back on June 25, 2010 and also noted the following small set of sites on the same i.p. – i.p. 99.198.103.117 – as myhomewealthsystem.com:
Quick Cash Kit was written about at QuickCashKit sales page review here (also on June 25, 2010).
Man thx a lot. This was a real eye opener! Your information was impeccable. I’m glad I found this website. You should be commended and the other guy hung. Its not nice to deceive people out of there hard earn money. Thanks again.
You’re welcome, Felix
Paul:
This is an awesome website and you are an awesome guy! I’m out of work and in financial trouble. What program can I work that’s not a scam? I need to earn money now; my family is counting on me. Thanks!
Steve,
My only concern with your question is that you’re looking for a home business to make money “now”. That’s how most people end up getting scammed – because scammers know that they can prey on that belief or “mindset” (which I think isn’t really most people’s fault as that’s what they see claimed in so many sales letters).
However, if you are simply asking for REAL information what it takes to make money online I would recommend you watch this video:
What it really takes to make money online
However, if you come across anything else, you can always join the forum and ask questions at the forum here. It just started up, so it’s not very active yet. But I’ve answered thousands of questions about various opportunities over the year via email, so I can usually answer the questions pretty fast.
I need Help!!! I think I messed stuff up but I paid for everything though.Please help me!!!I have a #8078264665(call after 7:00am).I need help please
Laura, I think you’re posting that on the wrong website.
There is only one way to make money online: Find a product people are willing to pay for, buy it for a good price or get it for free.
Sell it with a profit! Just as in the real life business. So simple and so difficult!
There are no program or system in the whole world that will make you money. You can’t make money pushing a button.
The money must come from somebody who are willing to give you money for something in return. The internet or computer will never give you any money. Believe it!
Please take away the stupid ad for online casinos in my comment! You can’t make money with them either!
Arne H.,
Google Adsense is delivering that ad automatically. It’s really hard to control that.
However, I’m going to report that advertisement to them, because it’s supposed to
be against their terms of service!
I actually had taken adsense off the site for a long time, because so many scams were being
advertised through it.
Google seemed to have gotten rid of most of the scams during early 2010 so I put it back up, but now I’m going to start watching it more closely again, because I have seen the same problems starting to creep back into their system.
Paul:
Well I didn’t exactly mean make money immediately. I did mean make money from home in a month or two.
Why is it that I can send an e-mail around the world in less than a minute? Post an ad on line in about ten minutes. Put up a website or blog in about 30 minutes. And it takes how long to make money from home? Why is that?
If it is going to take me several months or longer to make money with Niche Blitzkrieg, why is the guarantee only good for 60 days?
I don’t mean anything personally by the above comments, I just want to understand.
Thanks!
Steve
Steve,
The refund has to do with whether or not you feel the training and system is right for you, it has nothing to do with guaranteeing you that you’ll make any money. I don’t care how good a system is, you are only going to make it work some % of the time – that’s true with adwords, niche sites, ppv, or anything else that is REAL.
Not to mention the fact that making any sort of income guarantee completely violate FTC Guidelines.
You might want to read this post by commercial litigation attorney Michael Webster:
How Much can I earn with Niche Blitkrieg
If someone makes a guarantee based on any sort of income guarantee, run away…and FAST!
Also, I’m not sure if I understand your email analogy. I can also fly on an airplane a really long distance in a short amount of time, but that doesn’t mean I can suddenly and magically do other things.
Steve,
I did think of one thing based on what you’re saying here. If you learn to BUY traffic things can go faster, but of course there’s also more risk which is why I don’t tend to point people in that direction.
But if you’d like some ideas for that, let me know and I can hopefully point you to something that might work for you. I’d say you should have at least $1,000 your willing to risk if you want to try that approach.
Paul:
I’m not asking you or Michael to make any illegal statements, nor am I expecting you to say I’ll get rich quick. What I am saying is it would be helpful for a person to know approximately how long they have to work with Niche Blitkrieg and make any money. The website leads one to believe it can be done in a month or two. One of the sites he set up seemed to show a small profit in about a month’s time.
All of these affiliate programs, including Niche Blitkrieg, offer a ton of helpful information and offer no idea of approximately when a person can expect to see a return on the investment of time and money. Don’t you have any historical data from the current membership as how long this takes?
A person can only invest so much time and money before he becomes discouraged about making money when it only flows outward.
Hi Steve,
Let me sleep on your question some more and see if there’s any better and more satisfactory way to answer it. Even though I’ve had those same questions asked to me many times over the years, it’s always possible there’s a better way to address it than I’ve though of to date. But for now, here’s what I had originally replied to you with:
The questions you are asking aren’t unusual, but to answer them without full and proper documentation is illegal. And in order to have full documentation to answer the question would require very expensive tracking mechanisms. I’ve answered this question many times before on the site, so I’ll just put in place again:
“There’s no way to answer that question and when you see sites that DO answer the quesiton 99.9% of them are violating Federal Trade Commission Guidelines – including many of the big infomercials you STILL see on TV.
Here’s what the FTC guidelines state:
“Under the revised Guides, advertisements that feature a consumer and convey his or her experience with a product or service as typical when that is not the case will be required to clearly disclose the results that consumers can generally expect. In contrast to the 1980 version of the Guides – which allowed advertisers to describe unusual results in a testimonial as long as they included a disclaimer such as “results not typical” – the revised Guides no longer contain this safe harbor.”
You can read the full guidelines here:
FTC Publishes Final Guides Governing Endorsements, Testimonials
Well, there is no way to say what people can “generally expect” with even the best training available – because so much of that depends on the actual person – their background, their level of discipline, their ability to persist, etc.
In order to comply with the FTC regulations data would have to be collected from thousands of customers and the customers would have to provide documented proof of their earnings (Property & Loss statements, etc.).
I do know that once you are a member that there are success stories that are shared. But keep in mind that when people share success stories ANYWHERE – even in a great forum like the Niche Blitzkrieg forum you have no way of knowing that they are being accurate or not.
I think the only place where you might be able to get documentable proof is if you were to invest in certain franchises where all those kind of records are automatically kept by the franchisor.
In order for a program like Niche Blitzkrieg to implement compliance requirements like that the cost of the product would easily have to be over $1,000 in order to put the proper compliance resources in place.
There’s no way a low-cost $47 product can do that.
If you want that type of documentation I suggest you seek out a more expensive franchise opportunity.”
I wish there was a way I could give you a great answer to your question, but there just isn’t any way to really lawfully or truthfully do so. Keep in mind that I sell Niche Blitzkrieg and many other products through the store area here so I could easily make MANY more sales of those product by telling people what they WANT to hear. It just wouldn’t be reality.
One place you could go to at least get correct general information about making money online for free is < a href="http://www.affilorama.com">Affilorama.com – they do have a paid version, too. However, there are three reasons I’ve tended to direct people to Niche Blitzkrieg:
1) It is a very FOCUSED process.
2) The support from both Michael, his staff, and other members of the course is tremendous AND you are in a forum with many OTHER people going through the exact same process which means that you are much more likely to get unstuck more quickly because many other people will have experienced the same block (and no matter what you do, I would surprised if you didn’t hit a block or get stuck at some point).
3) The cost of the training itself and life-time support is a one time fee of $47. There are other great courses which teach similar concepts, but they are MUCH more expensive, most with monthly fees.
THANKS GOD someone is doing this effort to keep us away from SCAMS. Has anyone found a REAL OPORTUNITY? Please let me know.
Akasha2010,
The ones I recommend are here:
Top Home Business Ideas For Newbies
Paul:
Thanks for your rather lengthy reply, you deserve an A+ for thoroughness. Trust me, I fully understand what you’re saying. Yes, yes, yes, I know about the FTC and how you-Michael can get into trouble for making income promises, yada, yada, yade. I’m sorry you think I’m so naive and uneducated. I’m just looking for something that works and isn’t going to take the rest of my life studying and experimenting before I can make a full-time income.
I’m merely talking about trust. Many of the people before I looked at Michael’s system were scams, and it’s harder and harder for me to trust a business opportunity. Not your fault, not Michael’s fault, but the fault of people who have taken advantage of me and others looking for a real way to make money, and in my case eek out an existence.
Paul, thanks again for all of your helpful information. You have given me much to consider and I appreciate that. I’ll think about it and take a look again at Michael’s opportunity soon.
I also want to give you a hearty thank you for the reviews you write up on all the other opportunities out there. I really appreciate your hard work. I’ve book marked your site and will be back often.
Steve,
I think we all have that same issue of trust when it comes to business opportunities. In some ways I might be too cautious. I try not to make assumptions about what people know, because I’ve just seen too many times where people do that.
That was one of the reasons I thought maybe starting with some free information might be a good way for you to start, so that you would at least have enough basic knowledge to know if what sites are claiming make any sense at all.
You might want to take a look at the free ebook called Profits From Passions here. You don’t have to opt into an email list or anything like that. You can just download it. There’s a great section about “Trusted Hubs” and “Professional Events” in there.
Also, Business.gov did a spotlight about me here:
Power User Spotlight From Computer Programmer To Home Business where I try to go over some things that I don’t think are discussed enough.
I can at least keep you to people/sites I trust and also you can post questions in the new Forum here where you can ask about any other opportunities you run across.
Thank you for saving me from a very expensive mistake. I was thinking about accepting their coaching but will now have great delight telling them what to do with it.
This is a great site!
Paul:
Do you, or does anyone who reads this page know anything about Rich Shefren??
strategicprofits.com
My wife was interested in his training program and I want to check it out very carefully before giving her the go ahead.
Is Rich Shefren a scam or the real deal?
Thanks!
Steve,
I don’t have enough experience with him to say for sure. His presentations are usually good.
However, I had a friend who worked for him who as not impressed at all, but I can’t remember
all the detail.
The friend of mine went on to do VERY well in his own business, so I don’t think he was
just blowing smoke.
Sorry I couldn’t be of more help there.
I bought and paid for all the upgrades for the Home Wealth System this week and only then googled it and arrived at this site. Stupid, I accept, but live and learn! Anyway, I generated absolutely no turnover at all in a week and decided to start the battle to get my money back. However, while I am certain this system is a bit poor, the refund took no time at all and I got every penny back: membership, VIP upgrade, Pro upgrade, Google submission and unlimited site submission. I didn’t expect that and it has, ironically, given me a little more faith in the company. Won’t be buying again though, of course.
Another site on the same server is currently (22 Sept 2010) being advertised using this ad:
http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/60/81/c5/ff/6081c5ff68c5fe078e302a97a61c1dab.gif
Yes the “work for Google” scam ads are back!
The ad is run on bannerconnect.net and leads to fake news / farticle site news9online.org/home-jobs/
There are 6 domains hosted on this IP address (99.198.103.117).
Here are a few of them:
Elitewealthpackage.com
Momsincomesystem.com
Myhomewealthsystem.com
3 more…
Yep, I did a post about those over here back in June:
QuickCashKit sales page review where I list the others.
Thanks for save my money and time.!!1
I am so pleased I found this page. I received a telephone call today from someone from My Home Wealth System, following up on my enquiry. He asked me all about my credit card bills, APR on them and how much I had available to spend.
He wanted to find people who were serious and wanted to change their lives and be willing to give them testimonials that they succeeded with this program. He then put me onto his boss who gave me more information. I butted in and asked him how much this was going to cost me and he came out with £1,500 – I said that I did not have that kind of money and he immediately dropped the price to £1,100. I told him that I wanted to go online and check the company out and he said that they were voted number 1 on Forbes (which means nothing to me) and other places that voted them number 1 and that I should go on their website to see the testimonials etc.
I told him that I had been scammed before and how did i know that his company were not going to scam me. He said that they would not scam people cos that is not what they are doing and that they would provide 1-on-1 support 24-7 and that there would be weekly calls from them for 45 minutes to an hour. It if were a scam why would they offer this support…
I said that I would think about it and let him know and he said that he would get someone to call me the following day.
I felt like telling him to give me the package for free and once I had earnt £2,000+ they could then take their fees from my profit… perhaps I will suggest that in tomorrow’s telephone conversation and let you know what his reaction is !!! I dont think he will take an IOU – or could I be wrong !
Linda,
I STRONGLY urge you to stay away from My Home Wealth System, unless you just want to have some fun with them.
Forbes & Entrepreneur, etc. do NOT “vote” for companies at all. They do have “rankings” which they provide in certain issues, but that has nothing to do with “voting”.
Thank you so much – I really appreciate your comments. I certainly will not be parting with any money on this one. I do not have that sort of money anyway and he did hint at using my credit card to pay for it. Thankfully I am not that naive.
I have signed up for your newsletter and really look forward to reading more from you.
Also would you mind if I add this site to my blog and give your information out to other likeminded people.
Thanks again
That is all fine, Linda. And you’re welcome.
And if you have questions about anything else you can email me at the email address you get the newsletter from.
Oh by the way how do I get a refund – I used Paypal. On their website it just says to file a dispute if you havent received the item or if the item was not as described.
Hi Linda,
It looks like MyHomeWealthSystem is still being sold through ClickBank, so the fastest way would be to request a refund through ClickBank.
You start at this page:
http://www.clickbank.com/orderDetail.htm
You should see either a “Support” button after that or a dropdown.
Ultimately you want to get to the drop down where you can request your refund.
John, you have to love the amazingly prophetic testimonial MyHomeWealthSystem.com put into place:
“Better than the real thing”.
You have to wonder if they put that in to make fun of people who by My Home Wealth System?
THANKS PAUL,
I SEE THIS PROGRAM POPPING UP EVERYWHERE, AS YOU KNOW I AM VERY HAPPY THAT YOU STAY ON TOP OF THESE SCAMS.
THANKS AGAIN,
SUSAN
Thanks.
I didn’t realize until Linda posted there was a lot more money that people could end up losing than just the initial cost of the product.
Paul, The M.O. of these type of scams is to entice a “mark” with a low cost product to capture your phone number. The phone number will be turned over to a recruiting company, who will soon be calling to appeal to all your dreams of online riches, success and respect. They sell training and mentoring programs that cost thousands of dollars. If you don’t have the available cash, they will ask you to leverage other peoples money. AKA, max out your credit cards, take out an auto title loan, borrow against your 401K. They put the hard sell on, knowing that there is a high wash out rate and people are left not realizing their dreams. Only to be left deeper in debt and facing an even worse life situation. This is one of the webs dirty little secrets that some so called well respected IM’s use to profit from their name appeal. I suspect that they are paid a healthy commission for each person that the recruiting company can convince to sign an expensive contract for training and mentoring. I hope this helps someone from falling victim to these online wealth robbing predators. Please withhold my last name.
Chris,
I have seen that set up quite a bit and even did an extensive write-up about it at one point, but wasn’t aware it was going on here until Linda posted.
And only recently did I realize how many “mainstream” marketers are engaging in these practices and leveraging their “name appeal” as you’ve said. It really makes me sad in many ways, because some of these guys were really the “good guys” early on.
When the recruiters contacted me, they wanted $5000 for the mentoring program. As I didn’t have that sort of money, I suggested that since they were so positive that I would make good money then they could teach me for free and that would be the best sort of testimonial they could have. I was promptly told that they already pay $8000 to their trainers and the call was terminated very quickly. Hit a nerve, I think!
Do you know anything about Starscapes.com? I’m interested in the star ceiling mural biz.
I don’t know much about that business. I would suggest you do a search on “star murals” or “ceiling murals” to find more information about competitive pricing for that type of business.
I’ll do more research if I have time later.
I have joined this MyHomeWealthSystem and so far i am getting around 200 hits a day but no sales as of yet, i have no idea if this works or not, i paid over $100 cos i went pro and took some add on’s aswell, am keeping an eye on the dates so i dont go over the 60 day mark, as if i dont get any sales by then, i shall ask for my money back
I have been looking online for work from home opportunities but they all seem like scams, has anyone worked from home or is currently doing it and could share there experiences?…Looking for honest companies that will pay for the work i do.
Hello paul, do you know anything about a company called crystal money? I think they might be a scam site?!
I don’t know it. I looked that up and found a site claiming to do money transfers to Nepal. Is that the one you mean?
Thanks for comments,
I was about to register…..Now I have to think over and over on such money making opportunities.
The website for it is http://crystalmoney.yolasite.com/
Looks like that site is gone now.
Yer, i found out it was a scam and got the site shut down yesterday. Am sure that want stop them tho, i’ll just move on and make another one.
Yep. Unfortunately, that’s how it works. It’s really hard to completely stop most of this stuff. They just keep popping up under new names, companies, etc.
Hello, just me again,lol. Have you seen this before? http://www.home-online-jobs.org/
Looks alot like MyHomeWealthSystem.
Yep. There are quite a few different versions of it.
I also was thinking seriously about sending in my $49.95 for the Work At Home program. Was going to do it today in fact. Thank you.
Will be subscribing to your newsletter.
Thanks, Bill.
Hi Paul thanks for reviews on MyHomeWealthSystem, I was on the verge of purchasing this programme, now no way
You’re welcome, Michael
What are your thoughts about Wealth Masters International and their wealth system? I have been considering, but not sure about it after some reviews. Thoughts?
I don’t know much about it, Ryan – and it’s kind of outside the scope of the types of opportunites I review here.
Just want to say to Marryann, (might have spelt it wrong)that you can get a refund from clickbank as they are a reputable company and the best way is to pay with paypal and go to ressolution and they always refund under the 60 days guarantee.
Thanks, Robert
Hi world!
I usually try to be carefull with making-money programs either online or offline (actually I had a horrible experience with an offline business, unfurtunately it was late when I discovered it was dishonest, but that is another story).
For the past 2 years I have wanted to make money online, it was like magic for me when I discovered this concept, but with the time I knew that all that glitters is not gold. I have signed up for several newsletters, and I was sent an email from a guy named Mike Bryan, who owns a website http://www.make-moneyreview.com (Keep this in mind). The email was an invitation to enroll Davenport’s new program (http://www.homewealthsystem.org/specialID04). I did not pay too much attention to it, after 3 months I checked it out and surprisingly the website did not exist, it was a red flag to me, I made a little research and I found this blog and others. It seems that they relaunched their business, probably people discovered the scam and so they changed the name (http://www.homewealthsystem.com). I went back to Mike’s site and it seems that everything he promotes is a scam.
Thanks Paul for this site.
Be careful everyone, take care.
P.D. Recently I have received emails regarding fake news channels sugesting me to buy miraculous products or courses. Sorry for my english
Angel,
Thanks for posting that additional information!
Does anyone know if
http://6aa32eslthi56n12-lt9sew8zx.hop.clickbank.net/ is legit? Basically you ‘set up’ a website by putting your name on it, and selling an ebook. The payments from customers buying the ebook go straight to your paypal account, minus 3% for paypal. I actually purchased off of my own website, using my husbands paypal account. And sure enough, the payment went straight into my account.
But… how does the big guys get their money? No way I get 100% of sales and the company doesn’t get any. Somewhere someone has to get something for making the website template and ebook. After I purchased the ebook for my hubby, he got an email saying he had purchased it, but no username/pssword to get the Ebook. No email to get the ebook link, either. Emailed support and they gave me a username and pssword to us, but then emailed them AGAIN today to ask how on earth customers are supposed to get the ebook if they don’t receive that info themselves.
Waiting to hear back…..
Would love to know what’s up with it, though.
Nice research.
Thanks for exposing these scammers with fake testimonials