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Show me how to take risks in life

Paul (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:03:55 +0000

Lesson #1 – Don't SHAME the person that's trying to help you…
Lesson #2 – Part of learning how to take risks has to do with working on YOUR emotional issues. Yes, there are technical aspects to taking risks, but that is not ALL that is involved.
Lesson #3 – Learning how to trust is difficult. If someone has been trying to help you for years, has asked for NOTHING in return, and you've rejected every form of assistance, it's time to look in the mirror and work on your emotional issues around TRUST.

IMPORTANT – I've removed all identifying information. Also keep in mind that between the two of us there were 64 (SIXTY-FOUR!) email exchanges. Also, NEVER have I said that no training is required on products I recommend. In fact I SPECIFICALLY to check to make sure they PROVIDE training. "No Experience required" does NOT mean "No LEARNING, STUDYING or READING required!"

Here's an image of our email exchanges:

Email Correspondence

My favorite part of his email is this line:

"I told you I'm ready to try a business that is simple, if it exists, but you could not produce and merely misdirected me yet again once you found a less suspecting victim".

Why is that funny? Because the "less suspecting victim" was a former regional VP of the largest cellular phone company in the southeast and was responsible for managing 23 offices in 7 states and 14 cities.

This guy has more real-world business experience than you, me, or ten
other people combined.

Q: Do you listen to Classic Rock radio? Ever heard the Little River Band's old song "Cool Change" from 1980? The chorus goes like this:

Time for a cool change
I know that it's time for a cool change
Now that my life is so prearranged
I know that it's time for a cool change

I'm not going to look it up and throw it in your face, but didn't I recently say somewhere, maybe when I asked for your help again, that I'm tired of the RAT RACE and need a CHANGE? The BS is getting deeper again much too soon with too much OP for my liking where I am. I really don't know if Internet Marketing will work for me, but I'm trying to be realistic by looking to only try out simple things first.

PQC's price is a bit high for what it seems to be. All that "closely guarded secrets" stuff seems a bit far-fetched anyway. Am I merely falling for his ad hype?

I've checked all 3 links you sent. It's all quite confusing and really looks like a bunch more sweatshops like the ones in the HomeShoring (pdf) you sent me because they rarely offer a living wage or make it simple to work for them. Any contractor stuff turns me off as well. I'm not that trusting.

Putting all that aside, what do you have in your library that puts things straightforward so that I can actually try out something simple without having to know all the secrets before starting? I'm not looking for a "GRQ" scheme because I know it doesn't happen. However, ANY influx of "honest cash" would give me some hope that it CAN work! All the time I have to spare now is about 1-2 hours a day on average. I've seen so many say that something productive can be done in that amount of time. If not, they are just lying through their wicked teeth, and their fate is sealed!

The J.O.B. thing is O.L.D. and time to try something new IS here! So, what will it be? We've corresponded for years, but you seem to keep pushing me away when I say I'm ready and willing to try. You've been helping all sorts of people. You even offered me some sort of partnership, but it was about something I'm not ready to undertake. What else is there that we can do? You're from Missouri, so "SHOW ME!""

A: All I can say is I've had so many other people making money I'm just tired of people who just complain all the time.

I talked to one guy for literally 4 hours a month ago who knew nothing about online marketing
and yesterday he told me he had his first $400 day. There are numerous people making money with Niche Blitzkrieg – not a fortune, but it's the first money they've ever made online.

Since now you sound like your just trying to shame me and put me down I think this isn't going to work out. "So show me?" Screw that. I can't show anybody anything who isn't willing to take risks in life.

I've helped thousands of people file complaints with the FTC, IC3, AGs.

I've set up an entirely free forum to help people here:

http://www.workathometruth.com/forum/

You're the classic person playing the blame game. Don't try to put your inadequacies on me.

You can review places I send people to get free training:
http://www.ericstips.com
http://www.affilorama.com
http://www.30daychallenge.com

If you're willing to go through the FREE training above I'd be happy to talk to you. But so far it seems that mostly your a blamer and complainer. SHOW me otherwise.

Paul

Here's the guy's response to that:

You must have a guilty conscience! I did NOT shame you in any way. Did you possibly read, "You've said you've helped…" into what I wrote? Sir, that's YOUR doing, NOT mine! I have my original and can prove what I wrote!

To think I actually gave you the benefit of the doubt, accepting your identity as an authority as genuine, and even affirming that you have helped people without doing my DD on you is MY FAULT! No, I do NOT blame you, I blame myself! "Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice (or more, in my case), shame on me!" FOR SHAME… ON ME!!!

I don't have time to look it up right now, but if my previous e-mail was the first time I actually told you that freelance sweatshop runarounds are not to my liking, I blame myself, again, for not having done so sooner. Some people may go for the "dangling carrot" in life, but I've had my fill! I told you I'm ready to try a business that is simple, if it exists, but you could not produce and merely misdirected me yet again once you found a less suspecting victim. After further thought, the Conduit Method is not really ethical as it tries to STEAL customers away from the original intended seller who should have gotten the sale. I'm glad I didn't get involved with that shameful venture! Besides, anyone who relies on Cookies to do business is a FOOL! One visit with tech support over having an unstable browser obliterates them! Knowing that, anyone with a little savvy can manipulate things by clearing their Cookies and returning to someone other seller's site if they choose, correct? It's ALL just BS!

I submit that you CANNOT PROVE that any honest money can be made easily on the Internet without knowing tons of technical material beforehand. I have yet to find ANYTHING you promote to be totally ethical, reliable, or easy, in its daily operation. It does NOT matter AT ALL whether there is "free" training available. The point is that you have finally admitted that it TAKES training. Besides, eventually, after barely revealing a thing, they all say, you'll have to PAY for the rest! I've never told you this, but I HAVE experienced it before. I'm convinced it's ALL SCAMS! Too bad for you that you've actually become PART of it by working these SCAMS you promote! There is NO SUCH THING as making money with only a few hours of work when going into it totally inexperienced! IT IS A LIE, ALL OF IT! I detest waste, and waiting for your help, sometimes for weeks at a time, has literally WASTED my time and WAY TOO MUCH of it! Your WorkAtHomeHelp e-mail is a SHAM! NO, I shall NOT lose sleep over this because I HAVE learned yet another VERY hard, but beneficial lesson. What you HAVE taught me is that remaining skeptical when it comes to the Web is QUITE healthy! Thank YOU for that, at the very least!

I will also offer that your website shows you're trying hard, but still not handling it smartly enough since you apparently are too arrogant to use spelling and grammar checking tools — yes, you are one of those who have insulted my literary intelligence time and again! It is still loaded with all sorts of misspellings, but worse are the links that don't work, like the Feedback page's supposed Close link. I even considered asking to become your VA on fixing your English problems and reporting the broken links for you to fix, but you probably wouldn't have offered to pay me enough to make it worth my time, or implement anything anyway, like the supposed Close link has already proved. I'm now convinced that your arrogance would have made you not want to deal with my criticism.

That being said, please excuse my "Show Me State" jab! Besides, if you Missourians can't take it it, CHANGE IT! That Obama's thing, you know! He will let you! You probably voted him in anyway! Shame on your vulgar tone as well!

I'm not sure what you were getting at by mentioning the FTC, but any disclosures about whom else you have dealt with and what was accomplished, even if some branch of the Government did receive your assistance, may impress, but does not scare, me in any way. It's really none of your business, and I'm not trying to scare you back by revealing it, but I'm actually related to someone in the DOJ who actually investigates Internet fraud. Now, PLEASE don't read me all wrong again as I'm NOT accusing you of that! I'm simply leaving you ALONE to find your own way as you simply are TOO full of your own self!

You are too wrapped up in the electronic world. You need to spend MORE time with your family, as I am about to by giving up on trying to find real help on how to do things as honest guys will all succumb. Having "known" you off-and-on for a few years now, my last genuine wish for you is that, one of these days, you will have a better life! I hope to!

This e-mail is not, and has not been, SPAM or slander, and goes no further than here. I won't bother you again. I have never posted, nor will I post, anything to your insulting forum. This has become a personal disagreement between two men and is, thereby, the END of our correspondence!

Good-bye, Mr. Schlegel!

My reply to him:

I wasn't threatening you.

I was saying I spend a lot of time helping people and volunteering a lot of research
to the FTC.

If you think my site is misleading, report it to your friend. I have 2000+ pages of free information on it I did by hand.

I've offered to BUY you products.
You refused. I sent you free information.
You rejected.

Obviously you think I'm scamming people so I can't change your mind on that.

Good luck.

Paul

His "Closing" (and bizarre) argument:

Please excuse this final message, but people with an ethical conscience have things they have to do.

This is to inform you that I have deleted everything you ever sent me for free, or otherwise, as I owe you NOTHING further for any of it and do not wish to keep it.

I cannot retain in my memory any information that I find unethical, EXCEPT the admonition TO AVOID IT, which I shall.

End of correspondence. (For real!)

Dealing with Jerks

Paul (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:10:10 +0000

Matt Levenhagen blog post (reprinted with permission):

Whatever you end up doing online, there is no getting away from Jerks. Jerks are everywhere. Usually they think they are better than you are. Their ego drives them to confront people with malicious words and actions…

Most of the time I am pretty good at ignoring them, but once in a while one will get under my skin. Sometimes they say things that are a direct blow at YOU and it becomes personal…..

BUT WAIT! I am guilty of lashing back. I'm not saying I haven't. I need to keep myself in check…

Normally the best course of action is to walk away. Choose your battles wisely.

A jerk can really take you by surprise and make your blood boil. It can make you want to find his physical address and confront him or her…

I think the best thing to do is just take a walk. A break.

If it's in a thread, don't look at that thread again. Sometimes you have to defend your territory or something you believe in, but don't get personal back… Just lay out the facts.

AS LONG as you are in business, you will have to deal with Jerks…

I used to think that people were generally good to each other. I grew up in a small town, in a middle class neighborhood, where everyone helped each other and were mostly friendly. No one stepped on each others toes. No one took advantage of each other…

Then I went in to business years ago and had a rude awakening… There are people that will seek you out and rob you blind…

Guard what you have. Take every precaution you can to protect your territory.

That Jerk you run into; keep an eye on him or her… Make a mental note. That might be the person that steals from you… They might be just having a bad day, but take note.

The world is full of Jerks and a lot of them have discovered the internet…

SOMETHING JERKS DON'T UNDERSTAND…

Building that type of reputation is not healthy. It will turn people against you that could have helped you. It will keep you from reaching your potential…

Build relationships. Help others. And don't be a Jerk…

Your ''standards"……are certainly dropping. Just GIVE ME money!

Paul (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:33:47 +0000

This email was baffling – especially since it was sent in response to an email I sent GIVING AWAY a report about Mystery Shopping that people have literally paid as much as $47.00 for. I used to do it on a donation model basis and the average donation was $19.00.

But I decided to give the whole thing away to everyone. Apparently that wasn't good enough for Michael from New Zealand as he sent the following email:

Email from Michael:

"Your ''standards"……are certainly dropping,
COMPARED to the 1st….. 3. emails !!!

I actually believed @ long last, here is
someone whose UPFRONT !!!
Was I wrong……Mr Work @ Home??? ???

Here was my reply:

(You'd think I'd be more polite, but honestly I have LITERALLY taken thousands of hours of my own time to help people for no charge, answered just about EVERY SINGLE one of the thousands of emails I've received over the years and PERSONALLY helped people recover as thousands of dollars – one lady recovered close to $3,000 with my help).

With that context in mind, let me reveal exactly what I said, because some people are basically UNHELPABLE and this is a great example:

"Well, I suppose I could SELL you a $35.00 ebook on Mystery Shopping like everyone else instead
of GIVING YOU this ENTIRE REPORT which took me close to 120 hours to put together for FREE.

Would that be better? I don't know what more you want. Do you want me to just come over and GIVE you some money?

I've taken you off the list since you don't want this info any more.

Thanks.

Paul"

Now that doesn't mean I didn't help the guy I did, as you can see from a quick follow-up message I sent:

"I've helped you by preventing you from being able to subscribe again.

If someone's going to complain about quality FREE information, basically there's not much left for them.

Bye.

Paul

Oh, by the way. I've personally helped people, held-their-hand, to get thousands of dollars of money back – at NO cost. So I have no time for this nonsense."

See, I'm such a nice guy.