Is My Shopping Genie A Scam?

Update: 11/8/2011 – People behind My Shopping Genie

I’ll be going into details about the people behind My Shopping Genie as well as top earners in the company  this month.

Original Post Follows:

There has been a debate raging for several years between people who call My Shopping Genie a scam and others who defend it as a legitimate business opportunity. I’ve pulled together some of the information from both sides of the debate and will be posting it here on a regular basis. My attention was initially drawn to My Shopping Genie when I received the following question:

“I was wondering if you might share your thoughts on “My Shopping Genie” from “My Net Universe”.”

High profile internet marketer Stephen Pierce states in his My Shopping Genie review that “From an internet marketing standpoint, I thought it was a goldmine.” He later goes on to say,

“I wasn’t really interested in like what they call the distributor dollars like with network marketing and all that, because personally I think that with network marketing it is hard to make money, because you have to have such a huge volume with a low percentage payoff. What appealed to me was the superior affiliate model inside – how you can make the money just by giving away the free software. So, you give away the software for free for people to use – and if you know how to give it away and you have thousands of people using it, that’s like walking around with your hands in the pocket of thousands of people.”

You can watch Stephen Pierce‘s video of his My Shopping Genie review below:

In fact, as far as I can tell there doesn’t seem to be much debate about whether or not the My Shopping Genie application works as claimed. From the reports I’ve seen about it, it does. The controversy surrounds the structure of the compensation plan and the nature of the payments the company behind My Shopping Genie makes to its distributors.

Since this type of business opportunity is outside the scope of my expertise I decided to look into what the experts in this area thought. I first talked to Lynndel Edgington of Eagle Research & Associates who pointed me to a June 13, 2011 post at Rod Cook’s MLM Watch Dog site which says:

“Complaints are coming in about selective commissions paid to Distributors. To the WatchDog, this is usually an indicator of a Ponzi-Pyramid meltdown. There are not enough new funds coming in to pay first or large distributors. There has always been debate that the licensed icons My Shopping Genie sold did not return money on shoppers as the company promoted. Editor’s Note: If the signup fee is all that is carrying My Shopping Genie…..the commission payment complaints certainly make sense.”

The potential problem with the compensation plan structure has been cleanly described in the My Shopping Genie review by UK writer Marian Owen at Business Opportunity Watch which states the following:

“My Shopping Genie does pay its distributors for recruiting new distributors. The fact that this payment is structured as the fee for a licence to distribute free copies of the software does not alter this fact. Obviously, if it were this easy to get around the law then everyone would be doing it. So the law is widely drawn to catch any arrangements which have the effect of rewarding participants in the scheme simply for the act of recruiting other people.”

The companies response to these types of allegations was covered by freelance Sunday Independent’s Rory Egan in his My Shopping Genie expose that he did in conjunction with the Irish Television show Prime Time:

“Prime Time offered a right of reply to all three of the distributors featured in the report; Hugh Paul Ward, Tony Lynam and Harry Rayburn, but each of them declined. We put it to the company that they were in contravention of the consumer protection acts of 2007 and in a written reply, MyNet Universe said, “The distribution method is common in the software industry in both individual and enterprise software rights. There is no commission paid for the act of “recruiting”, commissions are paid on the sale of a product: the Genie software license.”

A follow up story about My Shopping Genie by Sunday Indpendent write Don Lavery stated the following:

“An expert in commercial law said it had all the hallmarks of a pyramid scheme and this was confirmed by a representative of the National Consumer Agency.”

You can watch the Prime Time expose of My Shopping Genie in the videos below:

A similar point has been made by Troy Dooly in the following videos. The second video includes a letter written to Troy Dooley with a potential counter-argument to the “My Shopping Genie is a “Ponzi-Pyramid” viewpoint:

The following video is the one that includes a letter containing a potential counterargument to Troy Dooly’s video. In the video Troy states that the letter is from Anders Berglund, who according to Direct Selling News Europe has held the following positions:

“Between 2000 and 2006 (when he retired), he was General Counsel of Lux International AG. Back in 1987 Anders became a board member and legal advisor to the Swedish Direct Selling Association. Since 1989, he has represented Sweden on the board of delegates of the Federation of European Direct Selling Associations (FEDSA). He was Chairman of the Association from 1999 to 2002 and has been Vice Chairman since 2007. He has represented Sweden on the Board of Delegates of the World Federation of Direct Selling Associations (WFDSA) since 1993 and was Vice Chairman, Governance, of WFDSA from 1997 to 1999.”

There is further discussion about this My Shopping Genie video here.

And again, in the comments section in Business Opportunity Watch’s review of My Shopping Genie, Marian Owen counters Anders Berglund’s position. (Note, I have NOT verified that any of the information that Troy Dooly or Marian Owen discuss – including the scribd document – is in fact from Anders Berglund).

Allegations of unpaid My Shopping Genie distributors:

According to a June 13th, 2011 post at BusinessForHome.org which apparently is a letter from Kalpesh Patel, Kalpesh Patel has claimed about MyNet Universe:

“They have not paid most of my distributors since January unless they were globals or they asked several times to be paid, even then it was a hard struggle…. I can provide dozens of emails if required, to this day hundreds of reps have not been paid in my team alone, thousands worldwide. They owe me over $50,000, emails to prove this too if it ever gets there. Nobody replies to my emails, calls or texts since they stopped paying me 5 weeks ago, have proof of this too.”

And again, according to a June 13th post at BusinessForHome.org, Andrew Burling sent them the following letter (again I haven’t verified the letter was actually from him):

“They owe us TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, and after asking, then begging, then threatening to get paid, they turfed us! We were turfed on June 6, 2011. We were accussed of CROSS SPONSORING, but we were not even in another Company.”

One of the commenters there asks a question that appears to be directed at Andrew Burling: “how come a video was uploaded to you tube on june 3rd ( 3 days before your termination, coincidence ?)”.  The upload date can be seen in the following image:

Limu video

Limu video

The video referenced can be watched below:

MyNet Universe’s Response

MyNet Universe has written a letter countering both Kalpesh Patel’s & Andrew Burling’s allegations. Click here to read the full text.

Real money making ideas?

If you’re looking for real money making ideas you’re obviously not alone. There are millions of people everyday looking for real money making ideas who are convinced that amidst all of the nonsense, scams, and confusing messages they will be able to find ways to generate income that will work for them.

Many of you have asked me who you can trust and I’ve suggested to you that you need to learn to trust yourself and your own opinions. Now, I can tell you who I believe will give you better information on making money than others – and I’ll do that in this post.  But even that information I give is based on the general demographics of this site – but as corny as it might sound each one of you is unique and bring your own unique experience, talents, and personalities to the table.

If you only follow my advice or anyone elses advice for that matter you truly could end up selling yourself short. I’ve had several people that I’ve met through WorkAtHomeTruth.com who have done extremely well in ways I never would have thought of. I’ve met a person who went on to have an incredibly successful translation career. I’ve met a fellow who built over 400 niche websites within 18 months (and what he did NOT do is spend thousands of dollars on expensive “guru” products). I’ve met a person who started as a low level worker in the field of search engine optimization who went on to build his own company of 54 workers. But their success had nothing to do with ME or my advice…it had to do with their own ability to learn to trust themselves, strong motivation, the ability to network intelligently and as always, some amount of luck.

Learn What To Stay Away From As Well As What MIGHT Work For You

The other thing to keep in mind is that there are only ideas that can increase your odds of making money. There is NO guaranteed money making idea anywhere. If someone tells you otherwise, run away…fast. Scammers count on people believing in magic bullets and guaranteed wealth.

With that out of the way here are some ways for you to start developing your own ideas and filters about what you should definitely stay away from and what might work for your own background, talents, and personality when it comes to making money on your own.

Work At Home Scam Educational Resources:

  • Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - This is a book by my friend Lynn Edgington who works with an Assigned Federal Agent from the Secret Service as well 3 U.S. Postal Inspectors and has helped to take down a large number of very big financial scams including ASD Cash Generator, Pedro Dispenza/Peter Roor & Heleen Potman Poor (responsible for Oxford Club and many other scams estimated to be potentially near the billion dollar mark),  InetGlobal/Adpacks (Steve Renner), Regenisis2x2,  and too many others for me to list here. I contributed the chapter on work at home scams.
  • Bizop.ca - especially The Bizop News & The Franchise News
  • BobBear.co.ukDirectory of fake websites involved in money laundering and reshipping fraud.
  • Business Opportunity Watch – This site is financed by you, instead of by biz opp ads and commission links. Does EXTENSIVE and unique analysis of business opportunities.
  • ConsumerAction.gov - Consumer Actional Handbook
  • FakeChecks.org - Created by the National Consumers Leage (NCL), the nation’s oldest nonprofit consumer organization, as a central source of information and advice about fake check scams.
  • FTC Bureau of Consumer Protection – The FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection works for the consumer to prevent  fraud, deception, and unfair business practices in the marketplace.
  • FraudWatchIternational.com – Specializes in phishing fraud prevention. Includes free alert service.
  • How To File Consumer Complaints (and ways to possibly get your money back)
  • OnguardOnline.gov – provides practical tips from the federal government and the technology industry to help you be on guard against Internet fraud, secure your computer, and protect your personal information.
  • PatrickPretty.com -  Covers Ponzi Schemes, pyramid schemes, securities fraud, investment fraud and Internet crime.
  • RealScam.com - Fraud fighting forum
  • SaltyDroid.info (R rated for language) – a controversial, useful, in-your-face site that can help you to think for yourself and draw your own conclusions.
  • WorkAtHomeTruth.com (the site you’re on) – especially the Not Recommended section here.

Resources for Money Making Ideas Online And At Home

Note, theses are my lists of places I like to check out. Hopefully over time you will develop your own lists based on your own abilities, talents, and personality.

Business oriented

These are listed these in alphabetical order.

Update 5/22/2011: Affilorama has been REMOVED from the list of recommended sites.

  • 48 Hour Report blog – Run by Jason Fladien. Various marketing and money making tips. Most recently known for his popular post Stay Away From These Products.
  • AbsoluteWrite.com – Writer’s site. Especially the writer’s forum here.
  • Arindam Chackraborty – Definitely follow his blog and sign up for his email list (which will notify you of new blog posts). He puts out some really great material for anyone interested in online business ideas and techniques.
  • Business.gov - Extremely heplful government site to help you understand licensing requirements, etc. for your home business. There is also a forum at http://community.business.gov.
  • Don and Jeremy – Internet Marketing Blog - Warning (R-rated language at times).  No holds barred – tell it like its product reviews and internet marketing training.
  • Earn1KAday Blog - Run by Dennis Becker. Various marketing and money making tips.
  • ExtraIncomeForAll.com (low cost membership site of a large number of money making ideas) – run by Shawn Swinigan. I’ve also contributed quite a few ideas to the site now.
  • FastCompany.com – reports on topics including innovation, digital media, technology, change management, leadership, design, and social responsibility.
  • FastCompany.com videos – Fast Company videos on YouTube
  • IveTriedThat.com - Run by Steve Wrzeszczynki. Also does some nice scam write-ups along with great experiments having other people try products out.
  • MakeUseOf.com - Cool websites, software and Internet tips.
  • Michael Brown Internet Marketing Blog - advice and thoughts on business and growth.
  • NicheWisdom.com - Run by Matt Levenhagen. Various marketing and money making tips.
  • ReadWriteWeb.com – ReadWriteWeb is a popular weblog that provides Web Technology news, reviews and analysis, covering web apps, web technology trends, social networking and social media.
  • RyanHealy.com – Blog about business growth strategies.
  • SBA.gov – The Small Business Association.
  • SEOBook.com – an enormous amount of free information about search engine optimization.
  • SparkPlugging.com – provides extensive information and resources for home based entrepreneurs and those who want to become home based entrepreneurs.
  • Stump Markus - Useful information and often complete money making ideas presented at no charge. Note: I’ve known Markus a long time and believe he often leaps to conclusions about fraud without connecting the dots properly – having said that, he took a stand against many online hucksters WAY before it was the “in thing” to do.
  • TechCrunch – a leading technology media property, dedicated to obsessively profiling startups, reviewing new Internet products, and breaking tech news.
  • TED: Ideas worth spreading – TED (Technology, Entertainment, Design) makes the best talks and performances from TED and partners available to the world, for free.
  • Tiffany Dow’s blog - does outstanding product reviews. Note: her Work At Home Truths book came out well after WorkAtHomeTruth.com – but is just a coincidence.
  • White Hat Crew – with Antone Roundy. Extensive, free, helpful information about internet marketing.
  • Wired.com – coverage of current and future trends in technology, and how they are shaping business, entertainment, communications, science, politics, and culture
  • WorkAtHomeNoScams.com – run by Eddy Salomon. Various money making ideas, including freelance and job listings.

Freelance And Telecommuting (Home Job) Oriented

Note, it is extremely difficult to find a home job that is like a regular job. Most online positions are freelance positions where you are an independent contractor responsible for your own taxes and benefits.

You should also keep in mind that many low level (easy) jobs are often done over sees these days by people willing to work for as little as $2.00 per hour or even $2.00 per day sometimes. In other words, if you see a job listing claiming you can make a lot of money doing “easy work at home” don’t believe it.

That said, here is my list of places to look for Freelance & Telecommuting Positions. These places are places that are geared towards pretty much any type of work. If you are in a specific industry and are looking for a site to find freelance work you can ask in the comment section below.

These are listed in alphabetical order:

  • Best Of Fivver -  a blog which features gig reviews and actual work samples from users of the popular microjob site.
  • Elance.com – popular site where businesses go to find freelance workers of all kinds.
  • FlexJobs.com – has a trained staff of real people that scour thousands of online resources for jobs – such as invidual employer websites, industry blogs, reliabe public job boards, and online newspaper calssifieds for all of the most current postings that involve some level of telecommuting and online work. Their staff is trained to weed out scams, thus saving you time.
  • HomeJobStop.com - The HomeJobStop Job Bank is an active job board specializing in home jobs and freelance work listings.  Again, the site weeds out scams to save you time.
  • International Virtual Associations Association (IVAA) – The International Virtual Assistants Association (IVAA) is a nonprofit organization dedicated to the professional education and development of members of the virtual assistance profession.
  • IveTriedThat.com – offers a free, 45 paidguide that shows you where and how to find real work at home jobs and freelance work.
  • MysteryShop.org – The Mystery Shopping Providers Association. This is the most reliable place to get information about mystery shopping opportunities.
  • ODesk.com - another popular site where businesses go to find freelance workers with almost any background you can think of. It’s also a good place to get a “reality check” of how little some workers are willing to be paid for basic tasks which can show you why the sites that claim you can make big money doing “easy jobs” are lying to you.
  • RatRaceRebellion.com – Launched the pioneering virtual careers training company, StaffCentrix in 1999. They post free job leads and resources at the RatRaceRebellion.com site. Founder, Chris Durst appears regularly on CNN as an Internet Fraud and Safety Expert.
  • TelCoa.org – The Telework Coalition. Enables and supports the advancement of virtual, mobile, and distributed work through research, education, technology,and legislation.
  • WAHM.com – has a good forum where you can often get feedback from people about specific companies.
  • WorkAtHomeTruth.com – there’s a telecommuting to to help you search for legitimate home jobs and freelance work at http://www.workathometruth.com/TelecommutingTool.php

Important Yahoo! Cash 4 Idiots Update!

When Yahoo! Cash 4 Idiots first came out I barely paid attention. Even though I knew how profitable Yahoo could be from my own personal experience using it, the Yahoo Cash 4 Idiots claims looked a bit outrageous.

I also found it interesting that they poked fun at recent products like Google Payday, Secret Affiliate Code, Automatic Income System, and even Mass Control Marketing.

Not exactly the best way to win friends and influence people – especially in internet marketing where everyone is trying to get everyone else to “push” their products with the hope of making huge money through JVs.

But apparently the authors of YahooCash4Idiots aren’t concerned about the big JV paydays. And if their system really works – why should they be?

The system really started to grab my attention when some of the marketers I trust started to recommend it – including the owner of a major, high-quality PPC training program.

However I’m seeing a lot of claims that it’s basic, rehashed PPC materials that would only be of interest to a newbie. I’ve seen a few people who stated they refunded it immediately.

I have so many products to review that I’m not sure if I’ll even have time to review it soon.

However, I can tell you that if you buy  YahooCash4Idiots and hate it…

You can follow the refund instructions here.

You can also check our current Top 10 Home Businesses list here.

Of course if you’re going to go out and buy Yahoo! Cash 4 Idiots anyhow you might as well go and hunt down some sort of bonus for it. There are a lot of people offering bonuses now.

You can just search on “Yahoo! Cash 4 Idiots bonus” or “Yahoo! Cash 4 Idiots review”.

I’ve seen some bonuses offering squeeze page templates, research strategies, and tracking strategies and others with bonus interviews with Dean Cassady. You’ll just have to decide for yourself on this one what fits your particular needs.

If you buy it and want to provide feedback on it, feel free to comment here. No it’s not a scam but there’s some evidence it may not be all it’s cracked up to be.